Monday, July 12, 2004

 

What Do Iraqis Want?


A Gallup poll conducted in Iraq last March on behalf of USA Today and discussed at length in its pages (4/28/04) found the following results:

Coalition should "leave immediately"

Iraq overall-----------------------: 57%
Shi'ites outside Kurdish areas: 61%
Sunnis ----------------------------: 65%
People of Baghdad--------------:75%

This poll, conducted by a reputable American establishment, indicates a clear majority in favor of an immediate pull-out of the American army. In Baghdad, the majority is overwhelming!

Furthermore, this poll was conducted before the sieges of Fallujah and Najaf and before the prisoner abuse scandal broke out! We know that those very significant events heightened public feelings against the American army in Iraq significantly.

Yet, we still hear numerous voices (mainly from the American administration) claiming that "the silent majority" of Iraqis favor the opposite. And yet, the Interim Iraqi Government has officially asked the Coalition forces to stay on in Iraq to help control the security situation as required by the last UN Security Council Resolution (1546).

Evidently there is a sharp difference in opinion between the Iraqi people and the US administration-appointed Iraqi government set up to oversee the institution of democracy in Iraq. Perhaps they know something that we don't! Time will tell! Time during which there will be more suffering for millions, more lack of essential public services, more insecurity, more terrorism and more Iraqi and American blood shed.




Comments:

Not a problem. Would you like Saddam back as well?
 
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Abu Khaleel:

I have reviewed the vast majority of your posts and have found this one to be illogical. It implies that the U.S. should pull its troops from Iraq, immediately. Such posts are unrealistic and counter productive to any real progress being made in Iraq.

The reasons this is so is that the U.S. army is stuck in Iraq for the forseeable future. This situation has nothing to do with Iraq's internal security, but everything to do with external security. The vast majority of Americans would love to pull our troops out and leave the ungrateful "majority" of Iraqis to their fate. Unfortunately, this is not advisable because doing so would leave your country completely defenseless.

After such a pull out, the Turks could easily roll tanks through Northern Iraq into to Kirkuk to "protect" their aggrieved Turkomen brothers and quash any Kurdish aspirations for a Greater Kurdistan. Once those troops are in place, it is unlikely that they would ever be withdrawn. The model for this type of intervention is, obviously, the Syrian role in Lebanon.

The Iranians could also attempt a similar stunt and occupy Iraq's southern oil fields. Under this scenario, Iraq would be left a "rump" state with all its natural resources stolen by it neighbors. For these reasons, until the Iraqi army can be built up enough to defend itself, the U.S. army is stuck in your country. This is why I ask that you refrain from any further posts along this line until the Iraq army is bought up to strength.

Of course, once the Iraqi Army is rebuilt, your sovereign, democratically elected government can decide to ask the U.S. army to leave. Some governments have done so (like the Philipines), and we have complied with their wishes. Still other countries, like Germany and Japan, have made the political decision to let our troops stay so that they can spend less of their own resouces on defense. In the future, the decision will be up to Iraq.

Mark-In-Chi-Town
 
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Abu Khaleel:

I have reviewed the vast majority of your posts and have found this one to be illogical. It implies that the U.S. should pull its troops from Iraq, immediately. Such posts are unrealistic and counter productive to any real progress being made in Iraq.

The reasons this is so is that the U.S. army is stuck in Iraq for the forseeable future. This situation has nothing to do with Iraq's internal security, but everything to do with external security. The vast majority of Americans would love to pull our troops out and leave the ungrateful "majority" of Iraqis to their fate. Unfortunately, this is not advisable because doing so would leave your country completely defenseless.

After such a pull out, the Turks could easily roll tanks through Northern Iraq into to Kirkuk to "protect" their aggrieved Turkomen brothers and quash any Kurdish aspirations for a Greater Kurdistan. Once those troops are in place, it is unlikely that they would ever be withdrawn. The model for this type of intervention is, obviously, the Syrian role in Lebanon.

The Iranians could also attempt a similar stunt and occupy Iraq's southern oil fields. Under this scenario, Iraq would be left a "rump" state with all its natural resources stolen by it neighbors. For these reasons, until the Iraqi army can be built up enough to defend itself, the U.S. army is stuck in your country. This is why I ask that you refrain from any further posts along this line until the Iraq army is bought up to strength.

Of course, once the Iraqi Army is rebuilt, your sovereign, democratically elected government can decide to ask the U.S. army to leave. Some governments have done so (like the Philipines), and we have complied with their wishes. Still other countries, like Germany and Japan, have made the political decision to let our troops stay so that they can spend less of their own resouces on defense. In the future, the decision will be up to Iraq.

Mark-In-Chi-Town
 
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From the article linked ....

"That negative opinion of the behavior of the troops rarely is based on direct contact. Iraq is a country the size of California with a population of 25 million. Many areas are sparsely patrolled. Only 7% in the poll say they based their opinions on personal experience.

Instead, Iraqis get their information from others. For about a third, it's pan-Arabic television such as the Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya satellite news channels."

So, amazingly, after a mere 1 year of wall-to-wall anti-American propoganda by Al Jazeera about the US occupation, some Iraqis have responded in kind.

One wonders if Germans would have had the same poll numbers in 1946 towards the US occupiers, had we let goebbels stick around and run the radio stations back then in germany.
 
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To tell you the truth i'm tired of people tlaking about how ungrateful the iraqis are.It's not like they pleaded with us to come into their countrie anyways,and altough yes Saddam is an evil ruler things almost seem to have gotten worse since hie removal since there are more fire fights with u.s. troop and more civilian causalities.Maybe when Americans learn that they don't always know whats best for everyone we'll stop having these kinds of problems
 
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